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Athletics stuck on Frazier or Torres from Yankees for Gray

The Oakland Athletics and New York Yankees aren’t believed close to any deal yet in talks about Sonny Gray, as Oakland is said to have asked for packages that include either outfielder Clint Frazier or shortstop Gleyber Torres, two young players the Yankees have suggested are off-limits.

The A’s, in a deep sellers’ market, have named the very top prospects in talks to this point. From the Brewers, they are believed to like outfielder Lewis Brinson, and from the Braves outfield Ronald Acuna. The Brewers are said to have “backed off” in recent days, while the Braves are thought to be behind in the running.

Some teams are suggesting this will go to the wire since the prices are steep. And one rival executive went so far as to say, “the A’s have been steep in their asks so they may keep him.”

Perhaps more likely, they are just waiting for someone to bend. Gray is the most attractive pitcher on the market, as a young, affordable guy with a big upside who is currently hot. There’s a decent chance Yu Darvish will be traded, and while he has a greater pedigree, he’s a rental. The other pitchers on the market don’t stack up to Gray.

The A’s are believed especially focused on acquiring a center fielder of the future, and they’ve named the Yankees’ CF prospect Estevan Florial in packages, as well. To this point they are insisting on Frazier or Torres, but they’ve shown interest in some other Yankees prospects, including pitcher James Kaprielian, infielder/outfielder Jorge Mateo and others. The Yankees have seemed reluctant to include their top four or five guys, and they count Florial among that great.

The Yankees also like Darvish, and would consider Lance Lynn if he’s dealt, as well as perhaps some others. But most of the talk so far has revolved around Gray.

The Yankees got Torres in a four-man package for star reliever Aroldis Chapman, a rental at the time last year, in a situation where the Cubs were going for it (and got it, winning the first World Series title since 1908). Frazier came with top pitching prospect Justus Sheffield in a trade for top reliever Andrew Miller.  

The Dodgers and Astros are seen as potentially serious players for Gray, and the Mariners, Royals and others have checked in on the A’s young star.

Robert Murray of FanRag Sports contributed to this report.

9 Comments

9 Comments

  1. Michael Harper

    Jul 28, 2017 at 4:19 pm

    Sonny Gray definitely isn’t worth good prospects. Call up Chance Adams and give him a chance (LOL) before giving up on good prospects.

  2. Mediasavvy

    Jul 28, 2017 at 12:22 pm

    It’s long past time for the Yankees and Yankee pundits to move on from Sonny Gray. Yeah, he’s a great pitcher when he’s healthy. But not at the price suggested by everyone. Trade Frazier or Torres? Are you kidding me? Trade Mateo or Florial? Too much for a team in the first year of its youth movement. Especially when the Yankees enjoyed such early success.

    Better to trade Rule 5 eligible players who won’t make the 40 man roster for a rental pitcher or a big contract pitcher someone needs to move (like Santana). Trade Ellsbury plus cash to anyone who will have him. If you get a big money pitcher with 2-3 years left, that’s less of a problem for the 25 man roster than Ellsbury is.

    Do not trade the top shelf prospects, even for Sonny Gray. Good as things have been, the Yankees are not one pitcher away from the WS. Not unless they prove they can win a series against Houston.

  3. Daniel

    Jul 28, 2017 at 7:35 am

    Billy Beane can go to hell if he is asking for Torrers or Frazier. Beane is trying to get some attention after he gave away Donaldson for pocket change.

  4. Vinnie

    Jul 28, 2017 at 6:35 am

    Don’t like names being thrown about in this trade. Tell A’s to look elsewhere. Yanks should check on price for Garcia, Lynn and others. Beane gave Donaldson to Jays for practically nothing so trying to rob Yankees for an injury prone pitcher and a one year wonder first baseman . Sonny is not Chris Sale. Keep major prospects check on free agents after season. Bring up more youngsters and see what you have. They are not equipped to win World Series this year anyway.

  5. Since 61

    Jul 27, 2017 at 11:10 pm

    Exactly.Get pitching at end of year or next. Keep Florial and Mateo too.

  6. JU11904

    Jul 27, 2017 at 10:12 pm

    If they really want Gleyber or Clint, just say no. Yanks are not going to the WS in 2017. They can build a rotation over the winter without mortgaging the farm.

    • Ira Schiowitz

      Jul 28, 2017 at 12:20 am

      I would never trade Kaprelian or Sheffield Yankees do need young power starters

    • allen schade

      Jul 28, 2017 at 11:12 am

      I agree. At the beginning to this season no one saw how well the young guys would play. Don’t trade the prospects. If they don’t win this year,, that’s ok.

      I would love to see Judge in RF, Florial in CF, Frazier in LF, Bird at 1B, Torres at 2B, Gregorius at SS, Sanchez at C, with Mateo, Austin and Wade as backups.

      • Brooks B

        Jul 30, 2017 at 3:28 am

        Looks like the As are going to accept Florial and Littlle and one or two lesser guys. Great deal for us. You are assuming every prospect will pan out. Florial has great upside, but he is in single A and striking out 40% of the time. Remember, Fowler is ML ready, Jake Cave is killing AAA pitching and deserves a shot. Andjuar is ML ready and will prob be at the Hot corner in the near future. Solak is a kid who is starting to look like he has a ton of promise at 2nd. And that is without new players via FA. Sonny Gray is a proven ML pitcher who at worst is a very good third starter and has the potential to be an ace. If we can get him for Florial and Littllle, that’s a great deal.

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