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Heyman | Yankees must get creative if they want Stanton

Aug 12, 2017; Miami, FL, USA; Miami Marlins right fielder Giancarlo Stanton (27) connects for a three run home run in the fourth inning against the Colorado Rockies at Marlins Park. Mandatory Credit: Jasen Vinlove-USA TODAY Sports
Jasen Vinlove-USA TODAY Sports

The New York Yankees have been on the far fringes of the Giancarlo Stanton talk to this point, and one reason for that is the difficulty it would seem to be for them to fit Stanton and his $25 million salary under the $197 million luxury tax threshold for 2018.

But they have indeed spoken to the Marlins about Stanton, and surely have envisioned combining him with Aaron Judge and forming a new and real Bash Brothers, and there is one way they could make it work.

Here’s how:

The Yankees would have to include some combination of Jacoby Ellsbury, Chase Headley and maybe Brett Gardner to make their tax goal still work. And while it’s a long shot, technically it’s doable.

The Marlins are said to have started Stanton talks by asking any acquiring team to take his full contract and the $295 million to go over 10 years while also giving up good prospects. But sources say they are open to negotiating off that, depending on the total take, and the Yankees have a plethora of very good prospects that could entice Miami.

The Marlins would obviously prefer not to take big contracts back, but they are open to anything (they have to be, considering Stanton, with a full no-trade, is driving the bus). And one thing to keep in mind: New owner Derek Jeter’s team made its first deal with the Yankees, and he and Gary Denbo, hired from the Yankees organization, where he was a top executive overseeing their farm system. are more familiar with the Yankees’ players and prospects.

Word is, Ellsbury, who has a no-trade clause, doesn’t want to be dealt from the Yankees, so that could be a complication in such a scenario.

The key for the Yankees, of course, is their long-stated desire to get under the tax threshold so they can reset their tax rate and play next winter when several stars are hitting the market, including Bryce Harper, Manny Machado (an even more likely target for them than Harper), possibly Clayton Kershaw, Josh Donaldson and many others.

The Yankees have been talking to several teams about Ellsbury and Headley in particular, and are willing to offset salaries — especially Ellsbury’s — depending on the take. Stanton, who has that full no-trade clause, hasn’t publicly said where he wants to go, but it’s clear he’s holding the cards and believed he’d most prefer two things: 1) a winning team, and 2) the West Coast.

But since the Dodgers are the only team that fits both those categories, and they have even more tax issues than the Yankees and are at the very least playing their Stanton pursuit “cool” to this point, it’s certainly reasonable to think Stanton will weigh other mostly-positive scenarios seriously, and that would seem to include the Yankees, who look primed to contend for at least the next half decade considering their excellent stash of 20-something stars.

Any team that lands Japanese League star Shohei Ohtani could have an extra edge in a Stanton pursuit, since they’d be getting a likely superstar at a minimum first-year salary, and the Yankees look like an early favorite for Ohtani, though of course that bidding hasn’t yet begun, for a variety of reasons.

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  1. fuster

    Dec 1, 2017 at 7:03 pm

    Clint Frazier is a good player but not an emerging star.
    to my mind, he is expendable as part of a package that nets the team an ace pitcher such as Bumgarner.

    if the team decides that they prefer Stanton now to waiting for harper and having to deal with his odious agent and inflated demands, they can easily afford to give up Frazier and add Stanton, ending up with an outfield of Judge, Hicks, Gardner and Stanton.

    Gardner’s legs can use two days off each week and the Yankees will have the DH spot open most days

  2. Brezhnev

    Nov 30, 2017 at 1:38 pm

    I’m from New York City and we need Giancarlo Stanton here don’t matter what the Yankee has to pay but we need him ASAP please!! PLEASE bring him, we need power here. Also we need a good Manager here. We need Posada, David Cone, Joe Torre again!! PLEASE!!

  3. John Ulin

    Nov 30, 2017 at 1:05 pm

    Why did you write this article? Stanton is not coming and you did not propose a scenario in which he might. Adding a $300 million contract makes no sense. The offense is already terrific and will improve because Bird, Sanchez and Judge all get better and because the Yanks add Torres and possibly develop Frazier. Might the Giants take Ellsbury or Headley in a deal? Maybe. But what else? It would start with something like Torres, Florial and Sheffield. It might make sense to trade amazing prospects like that, if the haul were Kershaw or Scherzer or another true ace who could carry the pitching staff. For a slugger with a big ego and an A-Rod style contract? No, thank you.

  4. Calvin Jordan

    Nov 30, 2017 at 11:55 am

    OK, let’s all say this together: The Yankees do not need Giancarlo Stanton and the Yankees do not want Giancarlo Stanton. Stanton is a magnificent baseball player but the Yankees look to have one of the best outfields in baseball over the next few years. Aaron Judge can hit for average and immense power and Brett Gardner is a superb left fielder and not bad at all at the plate and on the bases. Aaron Hicks and Clint Frazier are emerging stars and Estevan Florial is waiting in the wings. Toss in Ellsbury’s bloated contract and the desire of Yankees management to stay under the salary cap and it is clear that you do not need a Stanton in the mix. I know that baseball writers and their families have to eat in the off-season but try to keep the speculative stories within the boundaries of reason.

    • fuster

      Dec 1, 2017 at 7:36 pm

      ” the Yankees look to have one of the best outfields in baseball over the next few years. ”

      assuming that they acquire Harper. Hicks and Judge are solid, but gardner is aging and his contract is nearly up and

      Frazier hasn’t yet demonstrated that he more than a slightly-above-average MLB outfielder

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